关于钓鱼船上: 乘船人数限制和载重限量, 您怎么看?

[xiaolu]

我的看法是按照法规, 不能超过船的人数限制, 也不能超过船的载重限制.

比如, 如果某休闲钓鱼船的限制人数为 4 人, 限制载重为 600 磅的话, 那么:

最多可乘 4 人, 而且总重量不能超过 600 磅.

如果某人重 605 磅想自己独自一个人上此船后出船, 对不起, 您不能上船. 因为您超出了限制的载重量 600 磅 (虽然总人数没有超出限制人数)

如果某人重 150 磅, 并不代表她/他可以再带上 15 名幼儿(每个幼儿重 30 磅)同时上船. 虽然总重量(150 + 15 X 30 = 600 磅)没有超出载重限制的 600 磅, 但超过了总人数的限定的 4 人.

[会飞的鸭子]

严重同意站长滴观点

首先人数不能超, 那是违规!

其次, 重量上也坚决不能超阿, 会沉船的丫, 什么东西比命值钱!

[wenxiuxuan]

网上的一些信息。

Your boat should have a capacity plate that tells you how many persons or pounds you can have on the boat. Manufacturers typically assume the weight of each person to be 150 pounds, so if you are taking small children or heavier adults, you need to adjust the number of people you can take. The capacity plate will also tell you the horsepower recommendations.

[wenxiuxuan]

而且人家说的是Adults。

[millermin]

安全问题都是一票否绝的。只要有一个条件不行都不行。我们保养汽车很多都是两个条件取一。报税也常常二者取小者。

[xiaolu]

而且人家说的是Adults。

比如, 如果某休闲钓鱼船的限制人数为 4 人, 限制载重为 600 磅的话, 那么如果某成年人(ADULT)重 150 磅, 她/他是否可以再带上 15 名幼儿(每个幼儿重 30 磅)同时上船? 总重量(150 + 15 X 30 = 600 磅)没超过载重限量的 600 磅. 如果装不下 15 名幼儿(每个幼儿重 30 磅), 能装 N 个幼儿(每个幼儿重 30 磅)就装 N 个幼儿 (N <= 15), 只要总 ADULTS 数不超过4个就是允许的?

文主任怎么看? 只要载重限量 600 磅没超, 而且成年人的数量限定没超, 船上未成年人总数并没限制?

[wetnose]

你考船牌的时候是这样说的：
Capacity Plates provide three important pieces of information:
- Recommended Gross Load Capacity:

The maximum weight your boat is designed to carry including persons, motor, steering assembly, fuel, all equipment and gear.
- Recommended Safe Limits of Engine Power:

Indicates the maximum limit of engine horsepower based on the vessel’s gross load capacity. The outboard engine size is indicated on the Capacity Plate which, if fitted, is permanently attached to
the Pleasure Craft.
- Adults:
Indicates the maximum number of “equivalent adult persons” that your vessel can safely carry.

The Capacity Plate sets a maximum limit for each of these capacities based on safe operation in fair weather conditions. Loading your craft to maximum capacity may increase the likelihood of injury or emergency if you are forced to operate during adverse conditions. You should be aware of and respect the limitations and handling characteristics of your craft. It is extremely hazardous to overload your boat.

[wenxiuxuan]

标准答案如下：
http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/marinesafety/tp ... n2-380.htm

Ok, so I just got off the phone with the Coast Guard. The Max Occupant number on the capacity plate is only a recommendation. There are NO laws in Ontario or in Canada that restrict how many people you seat in your boat nor how much weight you carry irregardless of the capacity plate. It is only recommended by the manufacturer.
She said its also completely legal to modify your boat to hold more people. In my case have a removable bench seat in the back.

Above is the link she told me to check where it states it is a recommended number. Section 2.3.3.3.1 a

这是原来的连接，不管用了。

http://www.tc.gc.ca/MarineSafety/TP/TP1 ... d-max-safe

[wenxiuxuan]

To Add. I just got off the phone with the OPP from the 800 number on the website and the sergeant I talked to said that they don't go by the capacity plate for the number of occupants. He said as long as you have all the safety gear and life jackets your fine. He said "Having 1 adult and 4 kids in the boat is obviously different than having 5 big adults" He said that sometimes at the discretion of the officer if the boat looks unsafe they will refer to the weight capacity of the boat in reference to the number of people but not at the actual number of people refereed to on the plate.

They are not after people with 6 people in a boat with 6 seats where the seating capacity plate may recommend 5. They are after people with 10 people in a 12 foot tin boat.

He told me to just add the bench seat and not worry about it.

[xiaolu]

To Add. I just got off the phone with the OPP from the 800 number on the website and the sergeant I talked to said that they don't go by the capacity plate for the number of occupants. He said as long as you have all the safety gear and life jackets your fine. He said "Having 1 adult and 4 kids in the boat is obviously different than having 5 big adults" He said that sometimes at the discretion of the officer if the boat looks unsafe they will refer to the weight capacity of the boat in reference to the number of people but not at the actual number of people refereed to on the plate.

They are not after people with 6 people in a boat with 6 seats where the seating capacity plate may recommend 5. They are after people with 10 people in a 12 foot tin boat.

He told me to just add the bench seat and not worry about it.

they will refer to the weight capacity of the boat in reference to the number of people but not at the actual number of people refereed to on the plate? 看来如果某休闲钓鱼船的限制人数为 4 人, 限制载重为 600 磅的话, 那么如果某成年人(ADULT)重 150 磅, 她/他可以再带上 15 名幼儿(每个幼儿重 30 磅)同时上船 总重量(150 + 15 X 30 = 600 磅)没超过载重限量的 600 磅 (船上有此 15 名儿童的座位就好)

[madfrog]

这真是技术贴。。

[风雨]

they will refer to the weight capacity of the boat in reference to the number of people but not at the actual number of people refereed to on the plate? 看来如果某休闲钓鱼船的限制人数为 4 人, 限制载重为 600 磅的话, 那么如果某成年人(ADULT)重 150 磅, [background]她/他可以再带上 15 名幼儿[/background](每个幼儿重 30 磅)同时上船 总重量(150 + 15 X 30 = 600 磅)没超过载重限量的 600 磅 (船上有此 15 名儿童的座位就好)

警察看见100%要管的了~

600磅载重的船才多大？ 。。。common sense吖~

[风雨]

To Add. I just got off the phone with the OPP from the 800 number on the website and the sergeant I talked to said that they don't go by the capacity plate for the number of occupants. He said as long as you have all the safety gear and life jackets your fine. He said "Having 1 adult and 4 kids in the boat is obviously different than having 5 big adults" He said that sometimes at the discretion of the officer if the boat looks unsafe they will refer to the weight capacity of the boat in reference to the number of people but not at the actual number of people refereed to on the plate.

They are not after people with 6 people in a boat with 6 seats where the seating capacity plate may recommend 5. They are after people with 10 people in a 12 foot tin boat.

He told me to just add the bench seat and not worry about it.

主任打电话澄清了概念，这个，就以此为准了哈哈~

[Richard]

To Add. I just got off the phone with the OPP from the 800 number on the website and the sergeant I talked to said that they don't go by the capacity plate for the number of occupants. He said as long as you have all the safety gear and life jackets your fine. He said "Having 1 adult and 4 kids in the boat is obviously different than having 5 big adults" He said that sometimes at the discretion of the officer if the boat looks unsafe they will refer to the weight capacity of the boat in reference to the number of people but not at the actual number of people refereed to on the plate.

They are not after people with 6 people in a boat with 6 seats where the seating capacity plate may recommend 5. They are after people with 10 people in a 12 foot tin boat.

He told me to just add the bench seat and not worry about it.

they will refer to the weight capacity of the boat in reference to the number of people but not at the actual number of people refereed to on the plate? 看来如果某休闲钓鱼船的限制人数为 4 人, 限制载重为 600 磅的话, 那么如果某成年人(ADULT)重 150 磅, 她/他可以再带上 15 名幼儿(每个幼儿重 30 磅)同时上船 总重量(150 + 15 X 30 = 600 磅)没超过载重限量的 600 磅 (船上有此 15 名儿童的座位就好)

站长，您会带上15个1岁的小孩们上这个船？您老同意，孩子们的爹妈们也不同意，别说警察了。

[cctt6]

请注意，人+装备+渔获等等所有东西的总重量不能超过限制，而且一定要合理分布重量否则即使所有重量都在限制之内也容易发生危险。


还有，像哭贝这样的大水面，超过15公里的风就要小心了，KAYA，电动马达最好别勉强，否则一旦遇到逆风回程，会有危险

[xiaolu]

To Add. I just got off the phone with the OPP from the 800 number on the website and the sergeant I talked to said that they don't go by the capacity plate for the number of occupants. He said as long as you have all the safety gear and life jackets your fine. He said "Having 1 adult and 4 kids in the boat is obviously different than having 5 big adults" He said that sometimes at the discretion of the officer if the boat looks unsafe they will refer to the weight capacity of the boat in reference to the number of people but not at the actual number of people refereed to on the plate.

They are not after people with 6 people in a boat with 6 seats where the seating capacity plate may recommend 5. They are after people with 10 people in a 12 foot tin boat.

He told me to just add the bench seat and not worry about it.

they will refer to the weight capacity of the boat in reference to the number of people but not at the actual number of people refereed to on the plate? 看来如果某休闲钓鱼船的限制人数为 4 人, 限制载重为 600 磅的话, 那么如果某成年人(ADULT)重 150 磅, 她/他可以再带上 15 名幼儿(每个幼儿重 30 磅)同时上船 总重量(150 + 15 X 30 = 600 磅)没超过载重限量的 600 磅 (船上有此 15 名儿童的座位就好)

站长，您会带上15个1岁的小孩们上这个船？您老同意，孩子们的爹妈们也不同意，别说警察了。

我明明就是反问的意思, 各位可能没看出来?

其实我的意思还是要说, 按照法律, 您根本就不能也不可以超过船规定的人数限制(无论是大人还是孩子), 但不知道为什么几位(特别是文主任!:-)不是如此认为的. 非要说是以成年人数量和载重限量为准, 于是我才举出这个按照载重限量来搞人数的极端例子(人数限量 4, 载重限量 600 磅, 某成年人重 150 磅, 她/他可以再带上 15 名幼儿(每个幼儿重 30 磅)). 我是想来看看, 有谁相信这是可行的, 是没有违法的? 您不是说只要成年人数量没超, 总载重量没超就好吗?

我已经说了, 前不久在月亮河 COTTAGE 租的船, 一大人加4(或5)小孩在水上小逛了一圈后回来到岸边, 被 COTTAGE 管家看到后被告知: 这是不可以的, 无论是 ADULT 还是小孩, 按照法律, 船上总人数不等超过那条船上标的 4 人限量. 那管家是常年累月在 COTTAGE 弄船, 显然比我更明白更清楚这方面的法规

[莫德尔]

楼主最后的是正解。

[wenxiuxuan]

To Add. I just got off the phone with the OPP from the 800 number on the website and the sergeant I talked to said that they don't go by the capacity plate for the number of occupants. He said as long as you have all the safety gear and life jackets your fine. He said "Having 1 adult and 4 kids in the boat is obviously different than having 5 big adults" He said that sometimes at the discretion of the officer if the boat looks unsafe they will refer to the weight capacity of the boat in reference to the number of people but not at the actual number of people refereed to on the plate.

They are not after people with 6 people in a boat with 6 seats where the seating capacity plate may recommend 5. They are after people with 10 people in a 12 foot tin boat.

He told me to just add the bench seat and not worry about it.

they will refer to the weight capacity of the boat in reference to the number of people but not at the actual number of people refereed to on the plate? 看来如果某休闲钓鱼船的限制人数为 4 人, 限制载重为 600 磅的话, 那么如果某成年人(ADULT)重 150 磅, 她/他可以再带上 15 名幼儿(每个幼儿重 30 磅)同时上船 总重量(150 + 15 X 30 = 600 磅)没超过载重限量的 600 磅 (船上有此 15 名儿童的座位就好)

站长，您会带上15个1岁的小孩们上这个船？您老同意，孩子们的爹妈们也不同意，别说警察了。

我明明就是反问的意思, 各位可能没看出来?

其实我的意思还是要说, 按照法律, 您根本就不能也不可以超过船规定的人数限制(无论是大人还是孩子), 但不知道为什么几位(特别是文主任!:-)不是如此认为的. 非要说是以成年人数量和载重限量为准, 于是我才举出这个按照载重限量来搞人数的极端例子(人数限量 4, 载重限量 600 磅, 某成年人重 150 磅, 她/他可以再带上 15 名幼儿(每个幼儿重 30 磅)). 我是想来看看, 有谁相信这是可行的, 是没有违法的? 您不是说只要成年人数量没超, 总载重量没超就好吗?

我已经说了, 前不久在月亮河 COTTAGE 租的船, 一大人加4(或5)小孩在水上小逛了一圈后回来到岸边, 被 COTTAGE 管家看到后被告知: 这是不可以的, 无论是 ADULT 还是小孩, 按照法律, 船上总人数不等超过那条船上标的 4 人限量. 那管家是常年累月在 COTTAGE 弄船, 显然比我更明白更清楚这方面的法规

找个官方的法律给我看看啊。
你这个极端的例子并不能证明什么。

[xiaolu]

To Add. I just got off the phone with the OPP from the 800 number on the website and the sergeant I talked to said that they don't go by the capacity plate for the number of occupants. He said as long as you have all the safety gear and life jackets your fine. He said "Having 1 adult and 4 kids in the boat is obviously different than having 5 big adults" He said that sometimes at the discretion of the officer if the boat looks unsafe they will refer to the weight capacity of the boat in reference to the number of people but not at the actual number of people refereed to on the plate.

They are not after people with 6 people in a boat with 6 seats where the seating capacity plate may recommend 5. They are after people with 10 people in a 12 foot tin boat.

He told me to just add the bench seat and not worry about it.

they will refer to the weight capacity of the boat in reference to the number of people but not at the actual number of people refereed to on the plate? 看来如果某休闲钓鱼船的限制人数为 4 人, 限制载重为 600 磅的话, 那么如果某成年人(ADULT)重 150 磅, 她/他可以再带上 15 名幼儿(每个幼儿重 30 磅)同时上船 总重量(150 + 15 X 30 = 600 磅)没超过载重限量的 600 磅 (船上有此 15 名儿童的座位就好)

站长，您会带上15个1岁的小孩们上这个船？您老同意，孩子们的爹妈们也不同意，别说警察了。

我明明就是反问的意思, 各位可能没看出来?

其实我的意思还是要说, 按照法律, 您根本就不能也不可以超过船规定的人数限制(无论是大人还是孩子), 但不知道为什么几位(特别是文主任!:-)不是如此认为的. 非要说是以成年人数量和载重限量为准, 于是我才举出这个按照载重限量来搞人数的极端例子(人数限量 4, 载重限量 600 磅, 某成年人重 150 磅, 她/他可以再带上 15 名幼儿(每个幼儿重 30 磅)). 我是想来看看, 有谁相信这是可行的, 是没有违法的? 您不是说只要成年人数量没超, 总载重量没超就好吗?

我已经说了, 前不久在月亮河 COTTAGE 租的船, 一大人加4(或5)小孩在水上小逛了一圈后回来到岸边, 被 COTTAGE 管家看到后被告知: 这是不可以的, 无论是 ADULT 还是小孩, 按照法律, 船上总人数不等超过那条船上标的 4 人限量. 那管家是常年累月在 COTTAGE 弄船, 显然比我更明白更清楚这方面的法规

找个官方的法律给我看看啊。
你这个极端的例子并不能证明什么。

如果你认为官方法律说的是仅仅以成年人数量限制和总载重限量为准, 那么我的这个极端例子无论是如何的极端, 仍然是 100% 的合法的.

[Ecstasy]

my boat saids 6 person OR 700lbs max capacity..

[xiaolu]

my boat said 6 persons OR 700lbs max capacity..

Yes, enough said. 6 persons (and of course an infant or child is a person, too:-)

OR 700lbs.

So you can't exceed 6 persons NOR 700 lbs.

[Ecstasy]

my boat said 6 persons OR 700lbs max capacity..

Yes, enough said. 6 persons (and of course an infant or child is a person, too:-)

OR 700lbs.

So you can't exceed 6 persons NOR 700 lbs.

[Ecstasy]

all this is just to give you a recommendation of how much/heavy/weight that you SHOULD bring onto your boat, of course..you could bring as many people/stuff aboard as you want, you just putting yourself and someones lives at risk if you dont know what you're doing...

also, bringing exceeded loads on a boat is very dangerous when you're on the water during windy days...you know what im taking about..im sure most of us experienced it..
heavy loads plus on the water with high waves could also damage, weaken the structure of the boat,(transom/hull/ etc) or worse scenario is gotten the boat to sink...
boats with heavy loads are harder to maneuver..trust me..i know..
BUT...is very hard not to exceed the max cap rating..

for example: a boat with 600lb max cap. 16 foot, single console, has a trolling motor, lifewell, buildin gastank, and a single 60hp outboard motor..guess how heavy the loads gonna be...
lifejacks, anchor, safety equipment etc( 50lbs)
buildin gas tank, 50 liter full, (80lbs)
2 or maybe 3 batteries (70lbs)
trolling motor (50lbs)
lifewell 20gallon, has water and fish inside ( 130lbs)

need me list for more?
im not sure if i should include the 60hp motor(200lbs) weight into these... but just to let you know, you don really have much left...

[Ecstasy]

fishing tackles/bags (10lbs)
food and water (10lbs)
condoms (used not included)(20lbs)

[wenxiuxuan]

To Add. I just got off the phone with the OPP from the 800 number on the website and the sergeant I talked to said that they don't go by the capacity plate for the number of occupants. He said as long as you have all the safety gear and life jackets your fine. He said "Having 1 adult and 4 kids in the boat is obviously different than having 5 big adults" He said that sometimes at the discretion of the officer if the boat looks unsafe they will refer to the weight capacity of the boat in reference to the number of people but not at the actual number of people refereed to on the plate.

They are not after people with 6 people in a boat with 6 seats where the seating capacity plate may recommend 5. They are after people with 10 people in a 12 foot tin boat.

He told me to just add the bench seat and not worry about it.

they will refer to the weight capacity of the boat in reference to the number of people but not at the actual number of people refereed to on the plate? 看来如果某休闲钓鱼船的限制人数为 4 人, 限制载重为 600 磅的话, 那么如果某成年人(ADULT)重 150 磅, 她/他可以再带上 15 名幼儿(每个幼儿重 30 磅)同时上船 总重量(150 + 15 X 30 = 600 磅)没超过载重限量的 600 磅 (船上有此 15 名儿童的座位就好)

站长，您会带上15个1岁的小孩们上这个船？您老同意，孩子们的爹妈们也不同意，别说警察了。

我明明就是反问的意思, 各位可能没看出来?

其实我的意思还是要说, 按照法律, 您根本就不能也不可以超过船规定的人数限制(无论是大人还是孩子), 但不知道为什么几位(特别是文主任!:-)不是如此认为的. 非要说是以成年人数量和载重限量为准, 于是我才举出这个按照载重限量来搞人数的极端例子(人数限量 4, 载重限量 600 磅, 某成年人重 150 磅, 她/他可以再带上 15 名幼儿(每个幼儿重 30 磅)). 我是想来看看, 有谁相信这是可行的, 是没有违法的? 您不是说只要成年人数量没超, 总载重量没超就好吗?

我已经说了, 前不久在月亮河 COTTAGE 租的船, 一大人加4(或5)小孩在水上小逛了一圈后回来到岸边, 被 COTTAGE 管家看到后被告知: 这是不可以的, 无论是 ADULT 还是小孩, 按照法律, 船上总人数不等超过那条船上标的 4 人限量. 那管家是常年累月在 COTTAGE 弄船, 显然比我更明白更清楚这方面的法规

找个官方的法律给我看看啊。
你这个极端的例子并不能证明什么。

如果你认为官方法律说的是仅仅以成年人数量限制和总载重限量为准, 那么我的这个极端例子无论是如何的极端, 仍然是 100% 的合法的.

你没看我前面的帖吗，官方没有这方面的法律。
就像官方法律也没有规定你可以一只手抱几个小孩一样，你抱50个也行，问题是你自己负风险。