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楼层:#1  帖子sunfish123 » 02 1月 2015 22:29

站长您好, 我是那个在 Radioworld ice fishing seminar 遇见得那个人, Jason。 今天终於买啦Lowrance Elite 4X Ice Machine from Radioworld。 我看到您的帖http://www.lakesimcoeoutdoors.com/forums/index.php?s=41fe108f422d9717d5d73ce84b9ed2b5&showtopic=11703

我想請教一下如果水深低於60尺,我該怎樣設置?我想明天去 Lake Scugog 試一下.

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楼层:#2  帖子ggxhl » 02 1月 2015 22:42

死钩钩最深的地方才15尺。。。。。死钩钩用探鱼器等于没用,太多草,一般才八九尺深度,水草三四尺, 冰一两尺,能见度也就两三尺。。。。。。。。。
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楼层:#3  帖子肥彁 » 02 1月 2015 22:49

ggxhl 写道:死钩钩最深的地方才15尺。。。。。死钩钩用探鱼器等于没用,太多草,一般才八九尺深度,水草三四尺, 冰一两尺,能见度也就两三尺。。。。。。。。。


严重同意。

死钩钩可以钓鱼啦?
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楼层:#4  帖子xiaolu » 02 1月 2015 22:54

sunfish123 写道:站长您好, 我是那个在 Radioworld ice fishing seminar 遇见得那个人, Jason。 今天终於买啦Lowrance Elite 4X Ice Machine from Radioworld。 我看到您的帖http://www.lakesimcoeoutdoors.com/forums/index.php?s=41fe108f422d9717d5d73ce84b9ed2b5&showtopic=11703

我想請教一下如果水深低於60尺,我該怎樣設置?我想明天去 Lake Scugog 試一下.

謝謝

您照我下面说的步骤/顺序设定, 绝对没错:

reset all settings:
Menu/menu/System/Restore Defaults
Run Wizard - yes
Lakes - yes
ice fishing - no (对, 是 ICE FISHING, 但这个选项要选择 NO)
less than 60 feet - no
Advanced - yes


Menu/settings/sonar:
mode - deep water
noise rejection - off/lowest
surface clarity - off

Menu:
AUTO SENSIVITY - off
Range: (based on water depth: If water depth is 35 feet, set it to 40 feet, for example)
frequency - 83 not 200
ping - fastest

Menu/sonar options/color/iceview

Menu/Adjust:
sensitivity - 100 (然后逐渐降低, 直到合适为止. 水深比如 60 以上, 设置高比如 90%, 水浅时, 大概 80% 足够了)
colorline - 82 or 84 - lure is just starting to turn blue
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楼层:#5  帖子sunfish123 » 02 1月 2015 23:07

非常感謝樓上各位. I will try 站长's settings. I will let you guys know how it goes when I am back.
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楼层:#6  帖子xiaolu » 03 1月 2015 06:12

sunfish123 写道:非常感謝樓上各位. I will try 站长's settings. I will let you guys know how it goes when I am back.

Let us know if the settings work for you.... :shake
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sunfish123 写道:站长您好, 我是那个在 Radioworld ice fishing seminar 遇见得那个人, Jason。 今天终於买啦Lowrance Elite 4X Ice Machine from Radioworld。 我看到您的帖http://www.lakesimcoeoutdoors.com/forums/index.php?s=41fe108f422d9717d5d73ce84b9ed2b5&showtopic=11703

我想請教一下如果水深低於60尺,我該怎樣設置?我想明天去 Lake Scugog 試一下.

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您就是我们上次参加Free seminar的那位吗?最近打折了吗?多少钱买的?
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楼层:#8  帖子sunfish123 » 03 1月 2015 22:03

是的正是在下。 非常榮辛遇見您和站長。

沒有打折,我付的價格是$299。99,加稅。
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楼层:#9  帖子sunfish123 » 03 1月 2015 22:35

Sorry, my pingying is very bad.

So I went out today. The first lake I went to is Scugog. No one was on the lake, and it looks scary. so I turned away for the next lake.

sugog.JPG



then I went to Chemong lake, I still didn't see any one or any fishing hut on the lake. So I decided to try it from shore and explore further and further by drilling the holes away from the shore. The thickness was about 3 inches in the first hole, and the second hole was about 4 inches, the third hole was about 5 inches. There about 2 meters apart each hole toward the centre of the lake.
chemong.JPG


After the third hole, the problem began. The brand new auger I bought from Canadian tire started giving me trouble. It wont' drill at all. It took me more than 5 minutes to get the hole less than 1 inch deep :verysad . The first 3 holes, each one only took less than a minutes.

hard_drill.JPG


After I struggled for another hour, I gave up. The ice auger doesn't drill at all.

This ice auger is what I bought from Canadian tire.
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For the Elite 4 settings, it was not working well. I didn't see the signals from my lure. or maybe the water depth was too low. I might need more time to play around it, since this is the first time I use a fishing finder.

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I still enjoyed the day out.

Thanks everyone,



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楼层:#10  帖子Sergeantpepper » 03 1月 2015 22:51

did you crank the auger with both hands such that the auger was turning about its own axis, not wobbling?

Well, studying that pic further to find out it's a single crank auger (with the top donut)....so single hand cranking should do it right

did you turn in the right direction with the last hole? :laugh3.....more likely than not you might have changed hand and so is the direction....clockwise all the way!
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楼层:#11  帖子john8848 » 03 1月 2015 23:04

sunfish123 写道:Sorry, my pingying is very bad.

So I went out today. The first lake I went to is Scugog. No one was on the lake, and it looks scary. so I turned away for the next lake.

sugog.JPG



then I went to Chemong lake, I still didn't see any one or any fishing hut on the lake. So I decided to try it from shore and explore further and further by drilling the holes away from the shore. The thickness was about 3 inches in the first hole, and the second hole was about 4 inches, the third hole was about 5 inches. There about 2 meters apart each hole toward the centre of the lake.
chemong.JPG


After the third hole, the problem began. The brand new auger I bought from Canadian tire started giving me trouble. It wont' drill at all. It took me more than 5 minutes to get the hole less than 1 inch deep :verysad . The first 3 holes, each one only took less than a minutes.


hard_drill.JPG


After I struggled for another hour, I gave up. The ice auger doesn't drill at all.

This ice auger is what I bought from Canadian tire.
ice_auger.JPG


For the Elite 4 settings, it was not working well. I didn't see the signals from my lure. or maybe the water depth was too low. I might need more time to play around it, since this is the first time I use a fishing finder.

elite4x.JPG


I still enjoyed the day out.

Thanks everyone,



Jason

死狗狗到处是3-5" black ice. 转的时候,用力下压没有?
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楼层:#12  帖子wetnose » 03 1月 2015 23:10

Scugog 你去的地方是冰到了一定的厚度以后开车上冰的地方,不是冰钓的地方,当然没有人了。

我感觉你钻完三个洞以后,从照片中看,你把钻放到雪中,没有注意保护刀片,刀片的表面结了一层的冰,所以钻不动了。CT的东西不是那么的好,但是怎么说也不能只让你钻3个洞。
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楼层:#13  帖子john8848 » 03 1月 2015 23:13

xiaolu 写道:
sunfish123 写道:站长您好, 我是那个在 Radioworld ice fishing seminar 遇见得那个人, Jason。 今天终於买啦Lowrance Elite 4X Ice Machine from Radioworld。 我看到您的帖http://www.lakesimcoeoutdoors.com/forums/index.php?s=41fe108f422d9717d5d73ce84b9ed2b5&showtopic=11703

我想請教一下如果水深低於60尺,我該怎樣設置?我想明天去 Lake Scugog 試一下.

謝謝

您照我下面说的步骤/顺序设定, 绝对没错:

reset all settings:
Menu/menu/System/Restore Defaults
Run Wizard - yes
Lakes - yes
ice fishing - no (对, 是 ICE FISHING, 但这个选项要选择 NO)
less than 60 feet - no
Advanced - yes


Menu/settings/sonar:
mode - deep water
noise rejection - off/lowest
surface clarity - off

Menu:
AUTO SENSIVITY - off
Range: (based on water depth: If water depth is 35 feet, set it to 40 feet, for example)
frequency - 83 not 200
ping - fastest

Menu/sonar options/color/iceview

Menu/Adjust:
sensitivity - 100 (然后逐渐降低, 直到合适为止. 水深比如 60 以上, 设置高比如 90%, 水浅时, 大概 80% 足够了)
colorline - 82 or 84 - lure is just starting to turn blue


站长的设定是对深湖的,好像 mode - deep water 对死狗狗是不行的, 死狗狗草多不好用。没草的地方试试 Shallow Water/200 Khz.
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楼层:#14  帖子xiaolu » 03 1月 2015 23:59

john8848 写道:
xiaolu 写道:
sunfish123 写道:站长您好, 我是那个在 Radioworld ice fishing seminar 遇见得那个人, Jason。 今天终於买啦Lowrance Elite 4X Ice Machine from Radioworld。 我看到您的帖http://www.lakesimcoeoutdoors.com/forums/index.php?s=41fe108f422d9717d5d73ce84b9ed2b5&showtopic=11703

我想請教一下如果水深低於60尺,我該怎樣設置?我想明天去 Lake Scugog 試一下.

謝謝

您照我下面说的步骤/顺序设定, 绝对没错:

reset all settings:
Menu/menu/System/Restore Defaults
Run Wizard - yes
Lakes - yes
ice fishing - no (对, 是 ICE FISHING, 但这个选项要选择 NO)
less than 60 feet - no
Advanced - yes


Menu/settings/sonar:
mode - deep water
noise rejection - off/lowest
surface clarity - off

Menu:
AUTO SENSIVITY - off
Range: (based on water depth: If water depth is 35 feet, set it to 40 feet, for example)
frequency - 83 not 200
ping - fastest

Menu/sonar options/color/iceview

Menu/Adjust:
sensitivity - 100 (然后逐渐降低, 直到合适为止. 水深比如 60 以上, 设置高比如 90%, 水浅时, 大概 80% 足够了)
colorline - 82 or 84 - lure is just starting to turn blue


站长的设定是对深湖的,好像 mode - deep water 对死狗狗是不行的, 死狗狗草多不好用。没草的地方试试 Shallow Water/200 Khz.

嗯, 我说的设定, 对 10, 20 多尺以上, 特别是深水(比如 LAKE SIMCOE 的 100 尺甚至 120 多尺深水钓 LAKER), 保证好用. 如果只有比如 5 或 6 尺水深, 以上的很多设置选项中也可能有些设定不同.
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楼层:#15  帖子sunfish123 » 04 1月 2015 11:54

wetnose 写道:Scugog 你去的地方是冰到了一定的厚度以后开车上冰的地方,不是冰钓的地方,当然没有人了。

我感觉你钻完三个洞以后,从照片中看,你把钻放到雪中,没有注意保护刀片,刀片的表面结了一层的冰,所以钻不动了。CT的东西不是那么的好,但是怎么说也不能只让你钻3个洞。



You are right, I think I was at the wrong place in Scugog.

I tried to clean the ice on the blades. Nothing changed.
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楼层:#16  帖子sunfish123 » 04 1月 2015 11:58

xiaolu 写道:
john8848 写道:
xiaolu 写道:
sunfish123 写道:站长您好, 我是那个在 Radioworld ice fishing seminar 遇见得那个人, Jason。 今天终於买啦Lowrance Elite 4X Ice Machine from Radioworld。 我看到您的帖http://www.lakesimcoeoutdoors.com/forums/index.php?s=41fe108f422d9717d5d73ce84b9ed2b5&showtopic=11703

我想請教一下如果水深低於60尺,我該怎樣設置?我想明天去 Lake Scugog 試一下.

謝謝

您照我下面说的步骤/顺序设定, 绝对没错:

reset all settings:
Menu/menu/System/Restore Defaults
Run Wizard - yes
Lakes - yes
ice fishing - no (对, 是 ICE FISHING, 但这个选项要选择 NO)
less than 60 feet - no
Advanced - yes


Menu/settings/sonar:
mode - deep water
noise rejection - off/lowest
surface clarity - off

Menu:
AUTO SENSIVITY - off
Range: (based on water depth: If water depth is 35 feet, set it to 40 feet, for example)
frequency - 83 not 200
ping - fastest

Menu/sonar options/color/iceview

Menu/Adjust:
sensitivity - 100 (然后逐渐降低, 直到合适为止. 水深比如 60 以上, 设置高比如 90%, 水浅时, 大概 80% 足够了)
colorline - 82 or 84 - lure is just starting to turn blue


站长的设定是对深湖的,好像 mode - deep water 对死狗狗是不行的, 死狗狗草多不好用。没草的地方试试 Shallow Water/200 Khz.

嗯, 我说的设定, 对 10, 20 多尺以上, 特别是深水(比如 LAKE SIMCOE 的 100 尺甚至 120 多尺深水钓 LAKER), 保证好用. 如果只有比如 5 或 6 尺水深, 以上的很多设置选项中也可能有些设定不同.


The first hole was about 5 feet of water, the second hole was about 7 fow, the third one was 7.5 fow. I also tried to set the range to 6 feet, 10 feet etc. I think I need more time to play it around.

Thanks

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楼层:#17  帖子sunfish123 » 04 1月 2015 12:03

Sergeantpepper 写道:did you crank the auger with both hands such that the auger was turning about its own axis, not wobbling?

Well, studying that pic further to find out it's a single crank auger (with the top donut)....so single hand cranking should do it right

did you turn in the right direction with the last hole? :laugh3.....more likely than not you might have changed hand and so is the direction....clockwise all the way!



I had cut the first 3 holes without pain. It was fast, less than a minutes for each hole. I spend another hour cutting the next hole and I finally gave up. My two arms are still sour right now. :angry
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楼层:#18  帖子Sergeantpepper » 04 1月 2015 12:43

with a 5" auger you should be able to punch through 4" of ice within 10 seconds
you must have done something wrong
it's a single crank auger you should only crank with one hand and hold the donut down with the other hand without cranking....the auger would cut only if you turn it in the clockwise direction
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楼层:#19  帖子jackliu80 » 04 1月 2015 12:46

个人感觉,你是的压在冰钻最顶端的手没有增加向下的压力,压住之后会钻的很快。
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楼层:#20  帖子wenxiuxuan » 04 1月 2015 12:50

Radio我还有800的credit,谁想要可以10% 优惠
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楼层:#21  帖子sunfish123 » 04 1月 2015 16:42

jackliu80 写道:个人感觉,你是的压在冰钻最顶端的手没有增加向下的压力,压住之后会钻的很快。



I did put pressure downward without success.
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楼层:#22  帖子madfrog » 04 1月 2015 19:28

发张钻头的特写来看看
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楼层:#23  帖子sunfish123 » 04 1月 2015 21:16

here are the closer look up on the blade.

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楼层:#24  帖子Sergeantpepper » 04 1月 2015 22:10

OMG your blades are attached with face reversed :laugh3 who would have thought...thanks to Madfrog for reminding of pics

well, not really so...please ignore my above comments
both sides of the blades have rake angle actually, only one side steeper than the other

looks like my comments per floor#18 still hold
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