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Schools in these public health units will not return to in-person instruction until Feb. 10:

Windsor-Essex
Peel Region
Toronto
York
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Sergeantpepper @ Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:52 pm 写道: https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-issues-stay-at-home-order-immediately-declares-second-state-of-emergency-1.5263071

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Premier Doug Ford announced on Tuesday at Queen's Park that the new stay-at-home order, which will go into effect at 12:01 a.m. on Thursday, will require everyone to remain at home, with the exception of essential purposes, such as going to the grocery store, pharmacy, accessing health-care services, exercising, or essential work.

不知道钓鱼（包括冰钓）算不算 exercising。 注意这条并没有提到 exercising 必须在家门口儿附近或者必须在同一社区或者同一城镇范围内等...

草，刚准备好出去冰钓，不会也禁了吧

xiaolu @ 周二 1月 12, 2021 5:00 pm 写道:

Sergeantpepper @ Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:52 pm 写道: https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-issues-stay-at-home-order-immediately-declares-second-state-of-emergency-1.5263071

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Premier Doug Ford announced on Tuesday at Queen's Park that the new stay-at-home order, which will go into effect at 12:01 a.m. on Thursday, will require everyone to remain at home, with the exception of essential purposes, such as going to the grocery store, pharmacy, accessing health-care services, exercising, or essential work.

不知道钓鱼（包括冰钓）算不算 exercising。 注意这条并没有提到 exercising 必须在家门口儿附近或者必须在同一社区或者同一城镇范围内等...

麻烦站长赶紧跟政府澄清一下，在线等，挺急！

白雪丹枫 @ 周三 1月 13, 2021 1:06 am 写道:

xiaolu @ 周二 1月 12, 2021 5:00 pm 写道:

Sergeantpepper @ Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:52 pm 写道: https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-issues-stay-at-home-order-immediately-declares-second-state-of-emergency-1.5263071

这里提到：

Premier Doug Ford announced on Tuesday at Queen's Park that the new stay-at-home order, which will go into effect at 12:01 a.m. on Thursday, will require everyone to remain at home, with the exception of essential purposes, such as going to the grocery store, pharmacy, accessing health-care services, exercising, or essential work.

不知道钓鱼（包括冰钓）算不算 exercising。 注意这条并没有提到 exercising 必须在家门口儿附近或者必须在同一社区或者同一城镇范围内等...

麻烦站长赶紧跟政府澄清一下，在线等，挺急！

从14号开始生效

白雪丹枫 @ Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:06 am 写道:

xiaolu @ 周二 1月 12, 2021 5:00 pm 写道:

Sergeantpepper @ Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:52 pm 写道: https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-issues-stay-at-home-order-immediately-declares-second-state-of-emergency-1.5263071

这里提到：

Premier Doug Ford announced on Tuesday at Queen's Park that the new stay-at-home order, which will go into effect at 12:01 a.m. on Thursday, will require everyone to remain at home, with the exception of essential purposes, such as going to the grocery store, pharmacy, accessing health-care services, exercising, or essential work.

不知道钓鱼（包括冰钓）算不算 exercising。 注意这条并没有提到 exercising 必须在家门口儿附近或者必须在同一社区或者同一城镇范围内等...

麻烦站长赶紧跟政府澄清一下，在线等，挺急！

鹅昨天晚上跟河上笑同志烟酒过。 看图， 这是他发给我的某他人同 MNR 联系后得到的，意思是：

1. 并没有宣布关闭很多的户外的 park 和娱乐地方， 很多打猎和钓鱼的地方继续开放 https://www.ofah.org/covid19closures/
2. 如果具体某湖的岸边的 access 并没有被封住的话，钓鱼大概不受影响。

如果允许钓鱼，我现在最不确定的是，能否跨区域。比如从大多市到北面 INNISFIL，口腔科或者 MUSKOKA 地区等去锻炼身体（冰钓）。在高速公路上如果被警察给拦下的话：

警察：您从哪儿来？ 您去哪儿？您干什么去？
我：我从 Vaughan 来， 我去“你屁腥”（北面的 Nipissing）, 我到那里 exercising 锻炼身体去。

xiaolu @ Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:39 am 写道:

白雪丹枫 @ Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:06 am 写道:

xiaolu @ 周二 1月 12, 2021 5:00 pm 写道:
这里提到：

Premier Doug Ford announced on Tuesday at Queen's Park that the new stay-at-home order, which will go into effect at 12:01 a.m. on Thursday, will require everyone to remain at home, with the exception of essential purposes, such as going to the grocery store, pharmacy, accessing health-care services, exercising, or essential work.

不知道钓鱼（包括冰钓）算不算 exercising。 注意这条并没有提到 exercising 必须在家门口儿附近或者必须在同一社区或者同一城镇范围内等...

麻烦站长赶紧跟政府澄清一下，在线等，挺急！

鹅昨天晚上跟河上笑同志烟酒过。 看图， 这是他发给我的某他人同 MNR 联系后得到的，意思是：

1. 并没有宣布关闭很多的户外的 park 和娱乐地方， 很多打猎和钓鱼的地方继续开放
2. 如果具体某湖的岸边的 access 并没有被封住的话，钓鱼大概不受影响。

如果允许钓鱼，我现在最不确定的是，能否跨区域。比如从大多市到北面 INNISFIL，口腔科或者 MUSKOKA 地区等去锻炼身体（冰钓）。在高速公路上如果被警察给拦下的话：

警察：您从哪儿来？ 您去哪儿？您干什么去？
我：我从 Vaughan 来， 我去“你屁腥”（北面的 Nipissing）, 我到那里 exercising 锻炼身体去。

安省政府为此正式公布的文件：

https://files.ontario.ca/moh-enhanced-provincewide-shutdown-2021-01-12-v2.pdf

其中第 26 页：

关键不是能不能钓鱼，关键是你出去的理由是不是属于必须的。如果真有人在路上查，你说你离开家的理由是去钓鱼，我的理解是，不是必须的，当然，路上有人查的可能性不大吧！

好像室外滑冰可以，但有限制人数。家门口钓鱼应该问题不大，算锻炼。跨区钓鱼，说去锻炼可能有点说不通。

XUYCA @ Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:19 am 写道: 好像室外滑冰可以，但有限制人数。家门口钓鱼应该问题不大，算锻炼。跨区钓鱼，说去锻炼可能有点说不通。

今年是不是可以总结了

说实在的，这个居家令如果不严格执行，根本没有用。在downtown地区，经常看见几个人凑在一起抽烟聊天，如果能把这些杜绝了，也许有点用，但是可能吗？现在大部份的工作都没有停，路上的车还是那么多，大部份人，根本不当回事，虽然带口罩，也没有好好戴，人与人靠的很近，这些才应该是主要的传染途径，这些不关掉，其它的所有措施都作用不大。

冰釣我看问题不大，把車子开上湖上，跟人保持 fishing distancing 就是

就是让你看不懂，你可以理解为运动，警察也可以说你这不是，先来张单，法庭上见，政府缺钱了。

四个st。avid起跳，您就看着办吧！

铁马冰河西门吹雪 @ Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:52 am 写道: 四个st。avid起跳，您就看着办吧！

四条圣瓜阿喂？ 那可是千刀慢斬呀

福特今天将发布如何处罚违规

福特今天说了，如果你有怀疑是否必须外出，那就是非必要，留在家里。

在家呆在吧，嗑点瓜子，听着小曲，喝点小酒，看看抗日神剧，不亦乐乎

不能因为门口人行道可以跑步，就说去操场打篮球是不必要的。同理，也不能因为路边可以跑步，球场可以打球，就说钓鱼是不必要的。

Ontario 官网发布了，冰钓是开放的，但要遵守社交规则，如果不是同一人住所的，聚集不超5人，且保持2米距离。

Kinfay @ Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:10 pm 写道: Ontario 官网发布了，冰钓是开放的，但要遵守社交规则，如果不是同一人住所的，聚集不超5人，且保持2米距离。

这周末鹅出洞，看看是神马情况...

剛剛釣能完

DIYUSOCCERLO @ Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:09 pm 写道: 剛剛釣能完

毛图毛真相

警察并不打算在公路上把您给拦下：

https://www.iheartradio.ca/610cktb/news/police-officials-will-not-have-authority-to-stop-citizens-to-only-inquire-about-essential-travel-1.14369755

没有比这个说的更明白更清楚的啦：

“Executive Director of the Ontario Association of Chiefs of Police Jeff McGuire says officers need to have a reason to stop citizens.

"Yesterday I was answering a lot of questions about people fearing a Police State type situation. Are police cars going to be driving around and police officers stopping people walking down the sidewalk and demanding notes from their doctors or their employers? None of that is permissible and none of it is going to occur. Quite frankly, I think the police are relieved by that. The police chiefs and frontline officers don't want that power."

For example, drivers cannot be stopped simply for an officer to ask where they are going. "If an officer is going to stop a car, he has to have the authority that already exists under the Highway Traffic Act in order to do so." McGuire explains. "And even then, you have the opportunity to ask, 'Is this essential travel?' The person doesn't have to respond or tell you that. We don't have an authority."”