三选一，看你的啦！
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16 10月 2014 22:05由 jamesliugh
溪钓三文鱼有以下几种情况，忘各位大侠挑一个：
1. 山文花前月下，卿卿我我！线细，钩小，水混，没有看到钩饵，于是就喝到嘴里被俘！ 感觉吃了苍蝇！
2. 山文看到诱惑妩媚之饵，于是攻而击之，这回上当被擒，悲催啊！
3. 山文发现人类设下的诱饵，怎奈水急沟浅，无法腾挪，躲避不及，被钩颌口，廉颇老矣！
欢迎不同见解！
Re: 三选一，看你的啦！
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16 10月 2014 22:12由 边走边钓
哈哈哈，我来选一炮，如果是good fish，95%的机会是第一个，5%的机会是第二种。
Re: 三选一，看你的啦！
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16 10月 2014 22:15由 白雪丹枫
不用选。三种情况都有。不同阶段的三文，上钩的方式不同。以前很多人认为三文进了河后不进食，其实真不是那么回事。我亲眼看到过两次三文主动追我的饵咬的。
早期的三文，相当的活跃。我曾经在一个POOL两次上过四条鱼，但两个星期后去同一个POOL，就没鱼咬了，而且第二次时可以看到很多三文在游来游去。象现在这时候的三文，基本都是忙着生儿育女，哪里还会去咬东西？
狗一下“do salmon bite in the river", 会有很多答案。其中密歇根大学的研究报告和OUTDOOR CANADA的文章，我认为可信。
Re: 三选一，看你的啦！
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16 10月 2014 22:19由 jamesliugh
多谢边兄高见！没有可能是第三中吗？
我有次中鱼，感觉鱼在慌乱中转身，结果被中嘴角。
Re: 三选一，看你的啦！
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16 10月 2014 23:09由 白雪丹枫
边走边钓 写道:你上回给我说三文从石头后面追出来咬你的钩，我就觉得我有限的知识无法解答这个疑问。因为我钓的三文100%钩都是在嘴角，如果是鱼跑出来咬钩的话，钩应该在嘴里吧。白雪丹枫 写道:不用选。三种情况都有。不同阶段的三文，上钩的方式不同。以前很多人认为三文进了河后不进食，其实真不是那么回事。我亲眼看到过两次三文主动追我的饵咬的。
早期的三文，相当的活跃。我曾经在一个POOL两次上过四条鱼，但两个星期后去同一个POOL，就没鱼咬了，而且第二次时可以看到很多三文在游来游去。象现在这时候的三文，基本都是忙着生儿育女，哪里还会去咬东西？
狗一下“do salmon bite in the river", 会有很多答案。其中密歇根大学的研究报告和OUTDOOR CANADA的文章，我认为可信。
哈哈！咬钩的鱼钩到嘴角很正常啊，鱼往前一冲，鱼钩不钩嘴角钩哪里？有一种CIRCLE OCTOPUS 钩，就是专门设计让鱼钩钩在嘴角的。
还有，经过这几次钓三文，我知道你为什么说GAMA的钩会被拉直拉断了。那是因为鱼钩钩到鱼嘴里硬的地方，鱼钩没有穿透，着力点在钩尖上。GAMA的钩小且脆硬，当然不直就断了。我用十二号的拉了几条将近30磅的公三文，钩是穿透嘴巴外的皮的，没发现钩变形。
Re: 三选一，看你的啦！
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16 10月 2014 23:17由 边走边钓
有一次我在credit帮一个白人飞钓老头landing三文鱼，发现钩在嘴里，他用的是绿色的woolybugger,他也很惊讶，他说有可能是下游的几个俄罗斯人在不停的挂鱼，所以把这些三文鱼给惹恼了，所以他咬钩了，他说they were annoyed。所以我选了5%有可能会被激怒咬钩，但是绝不是去吃食。也许我是错的。
Re: 三选一，看你的啦！
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17 10月 2014 09:25由 mayii
三种都有， 三文和彩虹不一样。 彩虹是很馋的，会追饵吃； 三文是很懒的， 要送到嘴边才吃， 这就决定了这三种机会都会出现。
Re: 三选一，看你的啦！
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17 10月 2014 10:08由 XUYCA
大家说的都在理。我只想补充一点，三文咬钩还有一种情况，就是保护自己的卵，吃掉别的三文产的卵。这在动物界是扩大我繁殖的一种方式。所以，即使在三文产卵后期，有时也会看到三文攻击单粒鱼蛋饵。但多粒鱼蛋包基本不咬了。
Re: 三选一，看你的啦！
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17 10月 2014 17:27由 jamesliugh
感谢院长的补充，各位大侠都把自己的经验与大家分享，感脚收益飞天!
XUYCA 写道:大家说的都在理。我只想补充一点，三文咬钩还有一种情况，就是保护自己的卵，吃掉别的三文产的卵。这在动物界是扩大我繁殖的一种方式。所以，即使在三文产卵后期，有时也会看到三文攻击单粒鱼蛋饵。但多粒鱼蛋包基本不咬了。
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17 10月 2014 20:23由 Stradic
边走边钓 写道:有一次我在credit帮一个白人飞钓老头landing三文鱼，发现钩在嘴里，他用的是绿色的woolybugger,他也很惊讶，他说有可能是下游的几个俄罗斯人在不停的挂鱼，所以把这些三文鱼给惹恼了，所以他咬钩了，他说they were annoyed。所以我选了5%有可能会被激怒咬钩，但是绝不是去吃食。也许我是错的。
没明白,为啥惊讶?难道钩子不该在嘴里?应该是挂在其他地方?
Re: 三选一，看你的啦！
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17 10月 2014 22:52由 Stradic
边走边钓 写道:因为老头是个头发花白的老钓手，看装备就不是糊弄人的。他惊讶是因为看到fly在鱼的嘴里，而不是在嘴角边。因为他和我一样认为三文在河里是不吃食的,除了有时候会把单粒鱼子含在嘴里保护。我下次一定拍几张照片回来，指出咬钩和喝钩的区别。哈哈哈 
Stradic 写道:边走边钓 写道:有一次我在credit帮一个白人飞钓老头landing三文鱼，发现钩在嘴里，他用的是绿色的woolybugger,他也很惊讶，他说有可能是下游的几个俄罗斯人在不停的挂鱼，所以把这些三文鱼给惹恼了，所以他咬钩了，他说they were annoyed。所以我选了5%有可能会被激怒咬钩，但是绝不是去吃食。也许我是错的。
没明白,为啥惊讶?难道钩子不该在嘴里?应该是挂在其他地方?
哦,这样子啊.可是,fly也不像是鱼籽啊,它攻击fly不管怎么说都是去咬钩,为啥你们总认为应该是挂嘴角?太深奥了.
Re: 三选一，看你的啦！
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18 10月 2014 11:44由 jamesliugh
Here is a copy from web:
Why Salmon bite:
It's fairly common knowledge, with lots of science to back it up, that salmon stop eating during their spawning runs. Their throats swell shut, and their digestive system shuts down. So why do they then continue to bite our offerings up until they die?
Every fish is different, and not all salmon will go through the changes that take place at the same time or rate. Salmon fresh from the ocean are generally still eating. They will readily attack baits such as herring, anchovies, and sardines in tidewater, and even into the lower stretches of fresh water. There's no doubt that these fish are still feeding, and are basically going through one last buffet line before they rely solely on their fat reserves. At some point on their journey upriver this feeding stops, however, any angler that pursues these amazing fish knows that they will continue to bite.
Chomping down on a Kwikfish (Photo by Rob Yuen)
So why do salmon continue to bite if they aren't feeding? I've heard plenty of different theories, and there are three basic ways to get a spawning salmon to strike:
1. Irritate and aggravate - Using hardware such as Kwikfish, spoons, spinners, and corkies to irritate and aggravate a salmon and inducing a strike.
2. Exploit feeding instincts - Salmon have been doing nothing but feeding for all the years they've been out in the ocean. They are programmed to eat, and when they pick up the scent of a bait fish their brain tells them to bite it, even if they aren't trying to eat it. It's all instinctual and basic muscle memory. It's also believed that salmon have cravings for different minerals as they go through the physical changes. That's why some cure manufactures use different minerals and amino acids depending on how far from salt water they are going to be fishing.
3. Exploit competitive survival instincts – There is a theory often stated for why salmon bite roe. They are trying to improve the odds of their offspring surviving over another fish's.
What's it all mean for us fishermen?
Knowing what stage of their life cycle the salmon are in can help determine what bait we use. If you are fishing for fresh coastal salmon, you'll want to exploit the feeding instincts. These fish may also still be in an eating mode so using baits such as herring, anchovies, or smelt will be highly productive.
Curing salmon eggs. Photo by Steven Theel If you're going to be fishing inland for salmon that have been out of salt water for a few weeks, you may possibly need to try all the methods. If you know fish are in a hole, but haven't been able to produce a bite with eggs, switching up to a Kwikfish could aggravate one into striking.
Most fishermen have also learned to combine these strategies. Wrapping Kwikfish with sardines, or curing roe with different scents are two very popular and productive examples.
We may never know exactly why salmon continue to bite well after they quit feeding. However, trying to understand what does provoke a strike will help us to be more successful fishermen.
