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小弟最近想进一二手船，不知各位大侠有什么介绍？网站或许店面的信息？

各个marina，还有kijiji，boattrade上太多了。

买二手船有什么要注意的？

马达最重要，看保养的好不好，有没有定期保养的收据。有些马达还有工作时间显示，要留意。最好能试船，在湖上跑一跑，低速，高速，看会不会死火，容不容易打火。如果是很贵的船，估计还要看其它东西，我就没什么经验啦。

还有确认船主的身份，确保船不是偷来的。发票什么东东能证明，拖架的注册也能证明船主的身份。

让卖家把马达，船和拖架的价钱分开住3张单子上，马达占大头，这样你可以省点税。你注册时就按船和拖架，不用提马达的，切记，是合法的。

最后，如果是很贵的船，去美国买。

肥彁 写道:马达最重要，看保养的好不好，有没有定期保养的收据。有些马达还有工作时间显示，要留意。最好能试船，在湖上跑一跑，低速，高速，看会不会死火，容不容易打火。如果是很贵的船，估计还要看其它东西，我就没什么经验啦。

还有确认船主的身份，确保船不是偷来的。发票什么东东能证明，拖架的注册也能证明船主的身份。

让卖家把马达，船和拖架的价钱分开住3张单子上，马达占大头，这样你可以省点税。你注册时就按船和拖架，不用提马达的，切记，是合法的。

最后，如果是很贵的船，去美国买。

肥彁 写道:马达最重要，看保养的好不好，有没有定期保养的收据。有些马达还有工作时间显示，要留意。最好能试船，在湖上跑一跑，低速，高速，看会不会死火，容不容易打火。如果是很贵的船，估计还要看其它东西，我就没什么经验啦。

还有确认船主的身份，确保船不是偷来的。发票什么东东能证明，拖架的注册也能证明船主的身份。

让卖家把马达，船和拖架的价钱分开住3张单子上，马达占大头，这样你可以省点税。你注册时就按船和拖架，不用提马达的，切记，是合法的。

最后，如果是很贵的船，去美国买。

突然想起还有一个要注意的 - 有些船主买了比船本身额定马匹还要大的马达，这是违法的。

肥彁 写道:突然想起还有一个要注意的 - 有些船主买了比船本身额定马匹还要大的马达，这是违法的。

没说违法，只是说保险公司有可能不陪。

wenxiuxuan 写道:

肥彁 写道:突然想起还有一个要注意的 - 有些船主买了比船本身额定马匹还要大的马达，这是违法的。

没说违法，只是说保险公司有可能不陪。

嗯，买保险时，他们会问你的。总之，这是要留意的。

以下是抄过来的
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http://www.boaterlicences.com/online_course_safety.php
Contraventions Act
In 1996, the federal government's Contraventions Act came into effect. Among other things, this act enables law enforcement officials to issue tickets and fines for offences under the Transport Canada Small Vessels Regulations or the Boating Restriction Regulations.

Typical offenses include failing to carry the necessary safety equipment or committing other infractions on the water. Some examples (quoted from 1996):

Licence numbers marked incorrectly;
Unlicenced boat $55
Speeding $100
When fuelling, failure to: use funnel, close doors or ports, switch off electricals $105
Not enough flares, oars, paddles, anchor $155
Competency requirements (license) $100-250
Age/horsepower restrictions $250
Missing bailer or manual pump (boat not over 5.5m) $200.00
Not enough PFDs, lifejackets, bailer, manual pump, fire extinguishers $205
Careless operation $200
Failure to switch off electrical equipment when refuelling: $200.00

For a complete list of fines, call the Canadian Coast Guard Hotline at 1-800-267-6687.

××××××××××××××××××
It’s not necessarily “illegal” in the sense that it is highly unlikely you are going to get pulled over by the coast guard or local authorities and receive a citation or a conviction for anything.

Capacity plates are more of a recommendation and protection for boat manufacturers in that they know how much power is suitable for the particular hull, how much weight and passengers a particular boat or hull can carry and so on.

Having said that, if you exceed the capacity plate horsepower rating and get into a situation where you are being held liable for an accident involving injuries or death then you most likely will be on your own from a legal standpoint.

If you overpower a boat and fail to tell your insurers then you are definitely on your own in the event of an accident. Non-disclosure of any modifications leaves you basically insurance less.

Example: I have a CVX-18 with about 310 h.p., standard power is 260 h.p. Is it overpowered? Maybe. Can the hull handle the power? Without a doubt. Have I disclosed the modification and related new top speed to my insurer and paid additional premiums accordingly and covered my butt? You bet!

肥彁 写道:

wenxiuxuan 写道:

肥彁 写道:突然想起还有一个要注意的 - 有些船主买了比船本身额定马匹还要大的马达，这是违法的。

没说违法，只是说保险公司有可能不陪。

嗯，买保险时，他们会问你的。总之，这是要留意的。

以下是抄过来的
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.boaterlicences.com/online_course_safety.php
Contraventions Act
In 1996, the federal government's Contraventions Act came into effect. Among other things, this act enables law enforcement officials to issue tickets and fines for offences under the Transport Canada Small Vessels Regulations or the Boating Restriction Regulations.

Typical offenses include failing to carry the necessary safety equipment or committing other infractions on the water. Some examples (quoted from 1996):

Licence numbers marked incorrectly;
Unlicenced boat $55
Speeding $100
When fuelling, failure to: use funnel, close doors or ports, switch off electricals $105
Not enough flares, oars, paddles, anchor $155
Competency requirements (license) $100-250
Age/horsepower restrictions $250
Missing bailer or manual pump (boat not over 5.5m) $200.00
Not enough PFDs, lifejackets, bailer, manual pump, fire extinguishers $205
Careless operation $200
Failure to switch off electrical equipment when refuelling: $200.00

For a complete list of fines, call the Canadian Coast Guard Hotline at 1-800-267-6687.

××××××××××××××××××
It’s not necessarily “illegal” in the sense that it is highly unlikely you are going to get pulled over by the coast guard or local authorities and receive a citation or a conviction for anything.

Capacity plates are more of a recommendation and protection for boat manufacturers in that they know how much power is suitable for the particular hull, how much weight and passengers a particular boat or hull can carry and so on.

Having said that, if you exceed the capacity plate horsepower rating and get into a situation where you are being held liable for an accident involving injuries or death then you most likely will be on your own from a legal standpoint.

If you overpower a boat and fail to tell your insurers then you are definitely on your own in the event of an accident. Non-disclosure of any modifications leaves you basically insurance less.

Example: I have a CVX-18 with about 310 h.p., standard power is 260 h.p. Is it overpowered? Maybe. Can the hull handle the power? Without a doubt. Have I disclosed the modification and related new top speed to my insurer and paid additional premiums accordingly and covered my butt? You bet!

你可能理解错了，这个对马达的限制只是针对年龄。
Under 12 years of age with no direct supervision, a person may operate a boat with up to 7.5 kW (10 hp);
Ages 12 to under 16 with no direct supervision, a person may operate a boat with up to 30 kW (40 hp)
Under 16 years of age, regardless of supervision may not operate a PWC
16 years of age or older: no horsepower restrictions

wenxiuxuan 写道:各个marina，还有kijiji，boattrade上太多了。

交船手续应该怎么做？

alfred 写道:

wenxiuxuan 写道:各个marina，还有kijiji，boattrade上太多了。

交船手续应该怎么做？

我没有买过二手船，真的不知道如何交易。
买过二手船的上来说一炮吧。
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这是我查到的一些信息。
The process is fairly simple. You do not have to have an Operators Card to own or buy a boat just to be able to drive it. When buying a used boat you will buy it privately or from a dealer. If you buy it privately just make sure you get all the proper paperwork from the seller; the boat ownership (make sure the number on the provincial paper is the same as the number on the boat also check the serial number on the outside of the transom is the same as on the licence), Also get a signed and dated bill of sale which includes a description of the vessel with serial number of motor, boat and trailer also have the ownership of trailer and the transfer of ownership part filled in by the previous owner. You can go to an Ontario Service Kiosk and get the application form to register the change of ownership. This is when you usually pay the PST. Mail to appropriate address. You can use a copy of the old ownership and bill of sale until your new licence arrives. If you buy from a dealer, they will usually do that for you. The process is easy.

还有一点要注意的是，
最好能让船主把船，马达，trailer的价格分开写，这样的话也许能省点税。

看了这个，我突然有个问题：

马达9.9屁以下的的船不需要注册，船要买保险吗？　

还有拖trailer的车，也要买拖trailer的保险吗？

endeavor 写道:看了这个，我突然有个问题：

马达9.9屁以下的的船不需要注册，船要买保险吗？　

还有拖trailer的车，也要买拖trailer的保险吗？

跟保险公司提一下就行，应该不要额外加保费